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	<title>Comments on: Episode 71: A Place So Foreign by Cory Doctorow (Part 1)</title>
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		<title>By: not Nigel</title>
		<link>http://dunesteef.com/2010/05/05/page-21-a-place-so-foreign-by-cory-doctorow-part-1/#comment-1601</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[not Nigel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 23:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t want to wait any longer for my Dunesteef fix and listened to the episode.  What a great job.  Should have trusted you guys.  The place where you ended part I was perfect.  I suppose it was a cliffhanger, but it felt like a cliffhanger at the end of a 1 hour episode as opposed to  cliffhanger at the end of a 30 or 20 minute episode.  So many important developments and resolutions had already occurred that there wasn&#039;t that sense of frustration.   Similarly to one of your other listeners, the self-styled &#039;Nigel&#039;, I&#039;m glad that you broke it into two parts so that we could get the episode sooner.

Apart from that, it was really well-produced and enjoyable.  That musical choice (the recurrring theme that opens out the story) was perfect.  The voice acting was superb.  Doctorow&#039;s story was nice to begin with, and I think you really added something to it.


The Broken Mirror song, what can we say?  &#039;Powerfully Inspiring, Jarringly Redemptive and yet Strangely Context Specific&#039;  :-)
It lacked, however, the grungy street-level credibility of the October Scary Story theme song.  It&#039;s hard to choose between the two.  In short: we&#039;re talking ringtones here people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t want to wait any longer for my Dunesteef fix and listened to the episode.  What a great job.  Should have trusted you guys.  The place where you ended part I was perfect.  I suppose it was a cliffhanger, but it felt like a cliffhanger at the end of a 1 hour episode as opposed to  cliffhanger at the end of a 30 or 20 minute episode.  So many important developments and resolutions had already occurred that there wasn&#8217;t that sense of frustration.   Similarly to one of your other listeners, the self-styled &#8216;Nigel&#8217;, I&#8217;m glad that you broke it into two parts so that we could get the episode sooner.</p>
<p>Apart from that, it was really well-produced and enjoyable.  That musical choice (the recurrring theme that opens out the story) was perfect.  The voice acting was superb.  Doctorow&#8217;s story was nice to begin with, and I think you really added something to it.</p>
<p>The Broken Mirror song, what can we say?  &#8216;Powerfully Inspiring, Jarringly Redemptive and yet Strangely Context Specific&#8217;  :-)<br />
It lacked, however, the grungy street-level credibility of the October Scary Story theme song.  It&#8217;s hard to choose between the two.  In short: we&#8217;re talking ringtones here people.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Anklevich</title>
		<link>http://dunesteef.com/2010/05/05/page-21-a-place-so-foreign-by-cory-doctorow-part-1/#comment-1595</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Big Anklevich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 07:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, well, I guess that&#039;s possible.  I have used other loops from Soundtrack Pro before, so I may have used this one.  I don&#039;t keep close track.  I rejected several ones that I know I used in &quot;Demon Shadow,&quot; but I could have used it elsewhere, or even in that story for that matter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, well, I guess that&#8217;s possible.  I have used other loops from Soundtrack Pro before, so I may have used this one.  I don&#8217;t keep close track.  I rejected several ones that I know I used in &#8220;Demon Shadow,&#8221; but I could have used it elsewhere, or even in that story for that matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh R.</title>
		<link>http://dunesteef.com/2010/05/05/page-21-a-place-so-foreign-by-cory-doctorow-part-1/#comment-1594</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh R.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 00:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand that. What I meant is, I think I&#039;ve heard that particular sound clip before in other Western stories you&#039;ve done. I may be wrong; you would probably know better than I. But it sounds VERY familiar.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand that. What I meant is, I think I&#8217;ve heard that particular sound clip before in other Western stories you&#8217;ve done. I may be wrong; you would probably know better than I. But it sounds VERY familiar.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Anklevich</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Big Anklevich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 17:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That song was the story&#039;s theme music.  It had to come up each time there was a scene break.  Maybe you thought we overused it because the story ran for 30 mins longer than most of our other stories.  Usually you don&#039;t have as much chance to get sick of it.  It was also just a simple loop I grabbed off Soundtrack Pro instead of a real song from Jamendo.  I couldn&#039;t find a song on Jamendo that fit what I was after in the time I had allotted to spend searching.  Sometimes you&#039;ve got to count in the opportunity cost.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That song was the story&#8217;s theme music.  It had to come up each time there was a scene break.  Maybe you thought we overused it because the story ran for 30 mins longer than most of our other stories.  Usually you don&#8217;t have as much chance to get sick of it.  It was also just a simple loop I grabbed off Soundtrack Pro instead of a real song from Jamendo.  I couldn&#8217;t find a song on Jamendo that fit what I was after in the time I had allotted to spend searching.  Sometimes you&#8217;ve got to count in the opportunity cost.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Anklevich</title>
		<link>http://dunesteef.com/2010/05/05/page-21-a-place-so-foreign-by-cory-doctorow-part-1/#comment-1592</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Big Anklevich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 17:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure, I could have...but then we&#039;d all still be waiting for the episode, because I&#039;d still be working on it.

If it weren&#039;t for the computer crash, I might have, because I could have taken advantage of the extra time Bryan producing the last two episodes gave me.  But instead I was busy getting my stuff back in order.

Maybe next time we do a long one I&#039;ll do it all as one episode again, like we did with &quot;Casts A Demon Shadow.&quot;

I&#039;m glad it didn&#039;t seem long to you though.  That means it was interesting, and that&#039;s what we&#039;re shooting for, after all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, I could have&#8230;but then we&#8217;d all still be waiting for the episode, because I&#8217;d still be working on it.</p>
<p>If it weren&#8217;t for the computer crash, I might have, because I could have taken advantage of the extra time Bryan producing the last two episodes gave me.  But instead I was busy getting my stuff back in order.</p>
<p>Maybe next time we do a long one I&#8217;ll do it all as one episode again, like we did with &#8220;Casts A Demon Shadow.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad it didn&#8217;t seem long to you though.  That means it was interesting, and that&#8217;s what we&#8217;re shooting for, after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Cambodia Carl</title>
		<link>http://dunesteef.com/2010/05/05/page-21-a-place-so-foreign-by-cory-doctorow-part-1/#comment-1591</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cambodia Carl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 16:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know, I didn&#039;t really feel the length of this story as I was listening to it.  It just sort of breezed by.  I think you four could&#039;ve stuck the whole thing into one episode and it would have been fine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I didn&#8217;t really feel the length of this story as I was listening to it.  It just sort of breezed by.  I think you four could&#8217;ve stuck the whole thing into one episode and it would have been fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel</title>
		<link>http://dunesteef.com/2010/05/05/page-21-a-place-so-foreign-by-cory-doctorow-part-1/#comment-1589</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nigel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 14:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good to see another Dunesteef in the cue.  I think I&#039;ll wait for part II and listen to both of them together.  

I&#039;ll look forward to it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to see another Dunesteef in the cue.  I think I&#8217;ll wait for part II and listen to both of them together.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll look forward to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh R.</title>
		<link>http://dunesteef.com/2010/05/05/page-21-a-place-so-foreign-by-cory-doctorow-part-1/#comment-1588</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh R.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 13:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[STORY: Well, it&#039;s Cory Doctorow, so you know there&#039;s going to be something cool... but as the story dragged on after they returned to 1901, I kept wondering what it was. I had no idea what the big reveal was going to be, and James&#039;s constant emo-ness -- like a 1990s goth dropped into 1900s Utah -- really started to annoy me. I&#039;m actually more interested in how Jules Verne became the only SF writer in this universe -- is he some sort of villain who went back in time and stole the work of Doyle, Burroughs, and Wells? I&#039;m hoping that gets addressed in part 2. I did like how Doctorow worked in a little dig against test-score-based education (getting better grades because you learned, not because you regurgitated).

PRODUCTION: Other than the fact that I feel you guys are kind of overusing that little guitar clip (I swear I&#039;ve heard it in other western stories you&#039;ve done), it was good.

COMMENTARY: Not much to comment on yet. I heard a couple of places where I think the story could&#039;ve been cut in half earlier on -- when James was at his bleakest -- but I agree with your decision.

As for the BMSE... I really hope another Mike Doughty song comes along that gets me inspired like &quot;27 Jennifers&quot; did last year. Although I did have an idea last night that&#039;s bouncing around the old brainpan...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>STORY: Well, it&#8217;s Cory Doctorow, so you know there&#8217;s going to be something cool&#8230; but as the story dragged on after they returned to 1901, I kept wondering what it was. I had no idea what the big reveal was going to be, and James&#8217;s constant emo-ness &#8212; like a 1990s goth dropped into 1900s Utah &#8212; really started to annoy me. I&#8217;m actually more interested in how Jules Verne became the only SF writer in this universe &#8212; is he some sort of villain who went back in time and stole the work of Doyle, Burroughs, and Wells? I&#8217;m hoping that gets addressed in part 2. I did like how Doctorow worked in a little dig against test-score-based education (getting better grades because you learned, not because you regurgitated).</p>
<p>PRODUCTION: Other than the fact that I feel you guys are kind of overusing that little guitar clip (I swear I&#8217;ve heard it in other western stories you&#8217;ve done), it was good.</p>
<p>COMMENTARY: Not much to comment on yet. I heard a couple of places where I think the story could&#8217;ve been cut in half earlier on &#8212; when James was at his bleakest &#8212; but I agree with your decision.</p>
<p>As for the BMSE&#8230; I really hope another Mike Doughty song comes along that gets me inspired like &#8220;27 Jennifers&#8221; did last year. Although I did have an idea last night that&#8217;s bouncing around the old brainpan&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://dunesteef.com/2010/05/05/page-21-a-place-so-foreign-by-cory-doctorow-part-1/#comment-1587</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bryan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 23:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow.  great job, guys.  Looking forward to part 2!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  great job, guys.  Looking forward to part 2!!!!</p>
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